Mangish: mysticism , altruism and collectivism
Saurav: what does that mean??
three totally different things??
Mangish: three over-rated tenets which ought not be there in the perfect society
Gaurav: perfect society at the first place is bullshit
and they might be over rated but can’t say that they are not required
Mangish: yes it is.. the attampts can be made to get closer to that end of the spectrum ..
Saurav: perhaps…..But I am not sure…..What is at the end of spectrum…something in our fancies may exist whch is virtual
Mangish: realism individualism and perfectionism
Gaurav: now what are these??
Mangish: being practical .. serving individual needs first .. not crushing individual rights in the mask of the “common good” and progressing continually
Saurav: yes definately…agreed
true very true
Mangish: these are the other end of the spectrum ..one where the society should graduate to..
Saurav: I don’t know…perhaps two ends don’t exist…
the nature points towards circle…perhaps both these ends converge to same end…
Perhaps
I don’t know anyways
Mangish: if two ends dont exist then you can make them meet in the first place
Saurav: ???
in circle where is the end??
its cyclic
no end
nothing
Mangish: no but in order to complete the circle you need continuity
Saurav: yeah…so whats the problem…?
continuity can be assured
and, by the way, there can be moments of emptiness….where even continuity is not required
electrons jump from one shell to another…and I think there is nothing in between two shells.
Mangish: if there is a gradual change in any attribute from one end to the other then obviously two extreme ends exist. Although they may converge cyclically but that doesnt refute their existence
Saurav: ya.. perhaps…but if they are converging…so how can one be superior to another….both yielding to same result
isn’t it??
Mangish: then i guess it boils down to what stage of the cycle you are present!!
Saurav: as in???
please explain a bit
Mangish: same with business cycle.. simply beacuse we know that recession and boom woud come cyclically doesnt mean that we stop making attempts to minimise the recession time and maximise boom time..
all macroeconic policies are infact directed towards that end
Saurav: yeah….right…..but macroeconomics is subset of ilfe…so I feel we need to refine its principles before generelazing…
anyways forget it
endless and wasteful discussion it is…
Mangish: yeah !! it surely is
Note: This was actual gtalk chat between two individuals, one of them is my good friend and if I quote his words, he was “just gassing around”. Mangish and Saurav are not real names
palakmathur said,
May 16, 2009 at 3:31 pm